steve
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Aug 21, 2013 21:21:19 GMT
Post by steve on Aug 21, 2013 21:21:19 GMT
Can anyone tell me why God created Wasps? I am sure they have a purpose in life, and are probably a vital part of the balance of nature that helps this planet survive as we drift through space. However, at the moment I am finding it very hard to feel any kindness to these small insects. Earlier this week I found my Hives under attack from wasps. I closed the entrances down to a small space so that it would be easier for the Bees to defend themselves. I also placed some 'Home made' wasp traps around the area to try and reduce the numbers making it to my Hives. I returned today to find the smaller Hive (3 frame nucleus Hive with a new this years Queen in) to be empty. No Bees. No Queen, no brood. Plenty of pollen though! As you can imagine I felt a little frustrated. Some feelings of sadness, some of anger. Its too late in the year to consider starting a new nucleus. However it was whilst considering my plans for next year that I came across this site. Fortunately it wasnt my only Hive, and the other Hive on the site is a strong colony housed in a Langstroth Hive. Hopefully its strength will protect it. I guess only time will tell. Meanwhile I shall continue on my mission to rid the local area of any wasps I can find
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Aug 22, 2013 11:56:38 GMT
Post by roadrunner on Aug 22, 2013 11:56:38 GMT
Hello Steve that's amazing. I doubt very much that wasps will affect your big hive. With respect to the smaller hive I suppose it could be wasps but unfortunately you will never know. How long is it since you last checked it?
I would be interested to hear what you think of the Langstroth hive.
Since replying to your post I have had a look at your introduction and note that you have been keeping bees for 25 years. Presumably you have had a few different hives in your time. How do you think that the different types compare with each other. Also how do you process your honey. Do you have enough hives to make powered spinning a good proposition?
What about wax? Have you made a solar wax extractor? I am in the process of making one insofar as I am having a stainless steel tray specially made, but so far I do not have a firm design other than copying one which a bee keeper was displaying at the Halifax Agricultural show a couple of weeks ago.
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Aug 22, 2013 13:16:56 GMT
Post by steve on Aug 22, 2013 13:16:56 GMT
Hi No I'm the second Steve in the Introduction post, and have only been keeping Bees for 4 years.
I check my Hives weekly, and the Hive the Wasps had taken was checked only 3 days earlier. I had returned to see how effective my Wasp Traps were, and discovered an empty Hive!
When I started Beekeeping I purchased a Langstroth Hive complete with Bees, so this was my introduction to Beekeeping.
I quicly discovered that most places in the UK sold National Hives along with all their extra bits. So at the start of my second season I split my Hive, and then once the Queen was laying well I did a shook swarm into a National Hive.
For a year I ran both National and Langstroth, and then took them through the winter safely.
However I found the National Hive was more prone to swarm, possibly due to being smaller internally. I tried larger frames but found them uncomfortable to work with. I tried running a Brood and a half, but found I was increasing my workload. I also found the National Hives less easy to put together (due to my poor carpentry skills).
So I decided to carry on with just Langstroths. The Hives are a nice size. The Brood frames manipulate nicely and are well balanced I use Dadant sized supers. The super when full contains more honey than a National.
Earlier this year (season 4) I collected a swarm which I housed in a Warre' Hive. These are very different to other Hives being of 'Top Bar' design and work from the top down, adding new Brood Boxes underneath the Hive as it expands. Its been an interesting project.
I also have a normal Top Bar Hive in my shed which I may use next season (still undecided).
As far as processing the Honey is concerned, I use a hand powered spinner. I would like an electric one, but cant justify spending the money to be honest, not yet anyway.
Wax. My nearest to a solar wax extractor was last year when I used a polystyrene box covered in a pane of Glass. inside I put a kitchen tray with a hole at one end. I propped the tray up on some empty boxes and placed a plastic tub under the end with a hole cut out. I then placed my old wax in it ontop of some kitchen roll to help filter it.. I used some bricks to stand the project at an angle and waited. On hot summer days the wax melted and trickled into the plastic Box
This year I havent bothered as I am trying a new project. A hive with a solid floor and a reduced entrance size. I have a hole drilled in the side. I place the frames inside the Hive. Connect a steam cleaner pipe to the hole. Turn on the steam and watch the wax trickle out of the bottom. (The Hive is on a stand at an angle so that the wax trickles forward out of the hole). Does it work? I shall tell you after I have used it at the end of the month.
All being well the steam will melt the wax and help clean the frames. (Once I have worked out how to get photos on here I will take some.
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Aug 22, 2013 20:17:41 GMT
Post by roadrunner on Aug 22, 2013 20:17:41 GMT
Hello Steve. That all sounds very interesting and I am glad to hear that there is someone else out there who is willing to experiment and doesn't take everything as written in tablets of stone.
I presume by a steam cleaner you mean one of the small domestic hand held ones for about £50-. Are they any good?
This year for the first time I have given all my wax and super frames back to the bees to extract the last vestiges of honey. I am hoping to get my wax extractor finished before the summer expires in order that I can try cleaning frames in it.
If you have read my article of a couple of days ago you will know that I have done away with my honey spinner, and I don't use foundation in my supers anymore.
We have a lot of rape seed around here and I still have a 60 litre bucket full of all the cappings (about 50% honey) from 2011. It is as solid as a rock. I had thought of using it as a basis for making wine, but now I have decided to make a compartment in my solar wax extractor specially for melting that sort of stuff, again, like you,with your steam cleaner I don't know if it will work.
I to tried brood and a half (well slightly more than half). Why do these so called breeder insist on selling nuclei on small frames. Of course being new to beekeeping I didn't know any better and bought my hives with standard brood bodies and then ended up buying some more larger ones as they just weren't large enough to prevent the swarming instinct.
Another thing that I find hard to understand, or maybe I am missing the point, is why do the majority of bee keepers leave their supers on till the end of the year. If they are continuing to do bee inspections that's a lot of lifting. When I do an inspection I look in the top super and remove any full frames, then I take that super off and then remove any full frames from the second super before taking that one off and placing it on top of the original one. Then I do my inspection before placing both supers, which are now considerably lighter, back on top.
I have a small stainless steel drainer which I use if I have only took about 6 x frames off, any more and I use my big drainer the details of which are in my post "News from RoadRunners Apiary".
My significant other bought me a huge reference book for my birthday last year. One of our problems is that we like to go away in our campervan, but obviously to guard against swarming we tend to limit trips away to a maximum of 12-days.
The reference book suggests that if you are going to be absent for up to a month or so that the day before you go on holiday you find the queen and kill her. The hive then starts to raise a new queen from new larvae and by the time the new queen has emerged and had her mating flight etc you are back off holiday. It all sounds a bit drastic but I think that I will try it out on one hive next year.
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Aug 23, 2013 7:36:22 GMT
Post by steve on Aug 23, 2013 7:36:22 GMT
I purchased my Steam cleaner from B&Q initially as a cleaning product. But only ever used it the once and decided a Vax would be better! It wasnt very expensive. The water tank holds 5 ltrs of water. Before I retired I worked as a Staff Nurse for 30 years in the NHS I saw a lot of nurses go off sick with back injuries, so when I saw my first Bee Hive this was one of my concerns. Lifting nearly full supers on and off the Hive is not a safe exercise. So I try and keep the Hive at a reasonable height, and like yourself I will take frames out that are ready rather than wait for the whole super to fill. However if using a Honey spinner I guess you really nead the whole super filled to make the process work. So when I see Hives with 3 or 4 supers on my first thought is 'Bad back' Sadly Beekeepers do talk about 'Beekeepers Bak' as an occupational injury. I only found your site this week, so am still reading through it. However whilst the weather is nice I am making the most of it and staying out on 'Wasp patrol'
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